that thorn dress is really cool-looking in detail and everything [god knows how it will read on screen, given their track record] but it really reinforces to me how much of a different narrative the show is telling and what the nature of that difference is? the costumer was going on about how margaery is dangerous so the dress should look dangerous and, like, okay, fair, but:
The bride was lovely in ivory silk and Myrish lace, her skirts decorated with floral patterns picked out in seed pearls. As Renly’s widow, she might have worn the Baratheon colors, gold and black, yet she came to them a Tyrell, in a maiden’s cloak made of a hundred cloth-of-gold roses sewn to green velvet.
i will always feel like the danger of margaery’s character is in her deliberate display of softness and delicacy and the show’s refusal to embrace the contradictions in her self-presentation is. so frustrating to me. and symptomatic of the oversimplification of the narrative’s moral scheme in general. u don’t impress me, show.
(1) You eclipsed by me Atreyu (2) Dog’s Blood Alexisonfire (3) Heaven Guano Apes (4) Bloody Mary The Living End (5) Save Ourselves Chimaira (6) My heartstrings come undone Demon Hunter (7) And if I lose, welcome annihilation Maroon (8) Karma Flavored Whiskey Zebrahead
It’s amazing. Not only does his tunic match his outstanding blue eyes, also the colours of the cheese he serves compliment his everything. The Tyrells do know how to combine fashion and work and let you shine. I love that.
- Ep. 301 - Valar Dohaeris
- Ep. 302 - Dark Wings, Dark Words
- Ep. 303 - Walk of Punishment
- Ep. 304 - And Now His Watch is Ended
- Ep. 305 - Kissed by Fire
- Ep. 306 - to be determined
- Ep. 307 - The Bear and the Maiden Fair
- Ep. 308 - to be determined
- Ep. 309 - The Rains of Castamere
- Ep. 310 - Mhysa
Finally watched “Fire & Blood” with commentary by David Benioff, D.B. Weiss, and Alan Taylor and you know what? Fuck them - specifically for the King in the North scene.
Catelyn’s part in the book:
“Lord Eddard was your liege, but I shared his bed and bore his children. Do you think I love him any less than you?” Her voice almost broke with her grief, but Catelyn took a long breath and steadied herself. “Robb, if that sword could bring him back, I should never let you sheathe it until Ned stood at my side once more… but he is gone, and hundred Whispering Woods will not change that. Ned is gone, and Daryn Hornwood, and Lord Karstark’s valiant sons, and many other good men besides, and none of them will return to us. Must we have more deaths still?”
“You are a woman, my lady,” the Greatjon rumbled in his deep voice. “Women do not understand these things.”
“You are the gentle sex,” said Lord Karstark, with the lines of grief fresh on his face. “A man has a need for vengeance.”
“Give me Cersei Lannister, Lord Karstark, and you would see how gentle a woman can be,” Catelyn replied. “Perhaps I do not understand tactics and strategy… but I understand futility. We went to war when Lannister armies were ravaging the riverlands, and Ned was a prisoner, falsely accused of treason. We fought to defend ourselves, and to win my lord’s freedom. Well, the one is done, and the other forever beyond our reach. I will mourn for Ned until the end of my days, but I must think of the living. I want my daughters back, and the queen holds them still. If I must trade our four Lannisters for their two Starks, I will call that a bargain and thank the gods. I want you safe, Robb, ruling at Winterfell from your father’s seat. I want you to live your life, to kiss a girl and wed a woman and father a son. I want to write an end to this. I want to go home, my lords, and weep for my husband.”
In the TV show:
*Catelyn, sitting more in the background*
*Zooms in on Catelyn looking worried for 2-3 seconds*
*Later, zooms in again on Catelyn looking very worried for another 2 seconds*
They left out one of Catelyn’s best moments of the series - it shows how she is the voice of reason so often but has her opinion and feelings ignored and dismissed because of her gender; how fierce she is in not giving up and sitting back passively accepting her and her children’s fate even though she was told from the beginning that her place is at home with her youngest children.
I don’t even know how Benioff and Weiss read that part and see it as being important solely because you see “the course of Robb’s evolution” (their words) into a king.
That is what they think the focus is on, despite Catelyn’s sensible, brave, fierce words and reading her internal thoughts.
I see the argument on leaving out some of book dialogue that they only have ~55min per episode, and they can only include what is most relevant to the story and its main characters* (and their actions). Catelyn’s speech would take max 45 seconds so I don’t buy that**, AND that part is vital and hugely relevant to her character arc and provides more context for her future actions. Catelyn fucking Tully-Stark does not give up, not even during her final moments when her last living son is murdered before her eyes (iirc, D&D said the Red Wedding was what the part they most looked forward to re-creating).
There’s something that also bothers me about them pointing out her part: “I love what Michelle did in this scene, it’s good.” And it’s true, Michelle always fucking delivers, but it seems like they think her 5-second part is a perfectly adequate replacement and summary for Cat’s part in the book.
The next scene where she visits Jaime isn’t much better, and there was something I especially disliked about how Jaime dismisses her and she walks away, as if it’s on his terms when and what they talk about, and she is too weak to handle it.
What’s funny is how for D&D it’s a highlight of her part in that scene: ”Here’s the moment that I love so much for this performance, she walks away”, ”I love it.”
Catelyn is badass in that part in the book. She is the one who is in command in that conversation and she does not take Jaime’s shit.
It just gets worse in season 2, to the extent where I think I’m more nervous than excited for season 3. I feel like I’m cringeing in advance for Catelyn scenes, especially those with Talisa.
*I’m starting to wonder if they even consider her a main character.
**ffs, they include that mostly pointless scene of Maester Pycelle and Roz which is more than a minute longer than the “King in the North” scene. They could have sacrificed at least a minute of revealing new info on secondary characters/sexposition for more on a main character.
NO CATELYN STARK IS NOT A MAIN CHARACTER IN GAME OF THRONES
SHE WAS A MAIN CHARACTER IN A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE
SHE IS NOT IN GAME OF THRONES
IF DAVID BENIOFF AND DAN WEISS THINK THEY HAVE SUCCESSFULLY SHOWED THE WORLD THAT THEY CONSIDER HER A MAIN CHARACTER
THEY ARE FUCKING HIGH.
"You’ll catch a cold."
"Keep me warm then, if you fear my father’s anger."
“never forget what you are, the rest of the world will not. Wear it like armor and it can never be used to hurt you. “
Handsome Gentlemen of Westeros: Jon Snow
Doreah killed Irri.
“A fool who loved his king too much.”